{"id":89898,"date":"2017-08-21T10:21:32","date_gmt":"2017-08-21T08:21:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/?p=89898"},"modified":"2017-08-21T15:50:52","modified_gmt":"2017-08-21T13:50:52","slug":"refs-in-der-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-nur-in-zwei-editionen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/2017\/08\/21\/refs-in-der-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-nur-in-zwei-editionen\/","title":{"rendered":"ReFS &#8211; In der Windows 10 1709 (Fall Creators Update) nur in zwei Editionen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>ReFS (Resilient File System) wurde mit Windows Server 2012 eingef\u00fchrt und dann auch in der Windows 10 1703 (Creators Update) eingesetzt. Wir hatten damals <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/2017\/02\/27\/refs-als-formatierung-in-der-windows-10-1703-enthalten\/\" target=\"_blank\">dar\u00fcber berichtet<\/a>. Es ist nur f\u00fcr Dateisysteme mit bis zu 4 Pebibytes, aber nicht f\u00fcr die Systempartition geeignet. Jetzt hat Microsoft offiziell best\u00e4tigt, dass es nicht mehr in allen Versionen verf\u00fcgbar sein wird.<\/p>\n<p>Waren vorher alle mit der Formatierung ausger\u00fcstet, obwohl man als Privatperson nicht wirklich etwas damit anfangen konnte, wird es in der Windows 10 1709 (Fall Creators Update) dann nur noch in der &#8222;Windows 10 Enterprise&#8220; und der &#8222;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/2017\/06\/05\/windows-10-pro-for-advanced-pcs-ersetzt-den-namen-pro-for-workstation\/\" target=\"_blank\">Windows 10 Pro for Workstations<\/a>&#8220; eingesetzt werden.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[89898]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-500x352.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"352\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-89899\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-500x352.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-291x205.jpg 291w, https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update.jpg 695w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Angedeutet hatte es sich ja schon vorher. Da in den letzten Insider-Versionen ReFS als Formatierung schon nicht mehr angeboten wurde. Ob die Redmonder es nun herausgenommen haben, damit keiner eine falsche Formatierung ausw\u00e4hlt ist fraglich aber durchaus der Grund. Es hatte mich damals schon gewundert, warum es f\u00fcr alle in der 1703 freigegeben wurde. So gut wie dieses Dateisystem auch ist, es hat und wird sich sicherlich nicht im privaten Bereich durchsetzen.<\/p>\n<p>via: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teroalhonen\/status\/899525761333432320\" target=\"_blank\">@teroalhonen<\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Tutorials und Hilfe<\/h3>\n<p>Ihr sucht weitere Tipps, Tricks und Tutorials f\u00fcr Windows 10? Dann schaut in unserem <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Kategorie:Windows_10\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Wiki<\/strong><\/a> vorbei bzw. speichert die Seite in den Favoriten. Falls ihr Fragen habt, dann stellt diese (auch als Gast) ganz einfach bei uns im <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/phpBB3\/viewforum.php?f=326\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Forum<\/strong><\/a>. Wir werden versuchen euch bei euren Problemen zu helfen.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wichtige Tutorials im Wiki:<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Windows_10_reparieren_wiederherstellen_mit_DISM_Inplace_Upgrade_und_vielen_weiteren_Varianten\" target=\"_blank\">Windows 10 reparieren, Fehler beheben<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Windows_Update_reparieren_Windows_10\" target=\"_blank\">Win 10 Updates reparieren<\/a> und <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Automatische_Updates_deaktivieren_oder_auf_manuell_setzen_Windows_10\" target=\"_blank\">richtig einstellen<\/a>  <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Autostart_Windows_10_Programme_deaktivieren_hinzuf%C3%BCgen_entfernen\" target=\"_blank\">Windows 10 Autostart Programme entfernen<\/a> und <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Datentr%C3%A4gerbereinigung_Windows_10_Alte_Daten_richtig_l%C3%B6schen\" target=\"_blank\">Festplatte \/ SSD aufr\u00e4umen<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Windows_10_automatisch_anmelden_ohne_Passworteingabe\" target=\"_blank\">Ohne Passwort anmelden Windows 10<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Cortana_deaktivieren_Windows_10\" target=\"_blank\">Cortana entfernen, deaktivieren<\/a> und <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Onedrive_deinstallieren_windows_10\" target=\"_blank\">OneDive entfernen<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Das_Windows_10_Startmen%C3%BC_richtig_einrichten_Tipps_und_Tricks\" target=\"_blank\">Windows 10 Tipps zum Startmen\u00fc <\/a> und <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Startmen%C3%BC_reparieren_Windows_10\" target=\"_blank\">Reparatur<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ReFS (Resilient File System) wurde mit Windows Server 2012 eingef\u00fchrt und dann auch in der Windows 10 1703 (Creators Update) eingesetzt. Wir hatten damals dar\u00fcber berichtet. Es ist nur f\u00fcr Dateisysteme mit bis zu 4 Pebibytes, aber nicht f\u00fcr die&hellip; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":89899,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[2689],"tags":[6864,18481,17430],"class_list":["post-89898","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-windows-10","tag-auswahl","tag-dateiformatierung","tag-fall-creators-update"],"wp_featured_image":{"id":89899,"alt_text":"","description":"","media_type":"image","media_details":{"width":695,"height":489,"file":"2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update.jpg","sizes":{"thumbnail":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-291x205.jpg","width":291,"height":205,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-291x205.jpg"},"medium":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-500x352.jpg","width":500,"height":352,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-500x352.jpg"},"wp_review_large":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-320x200.jpg","width":320,"height":200,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-320x200.jpg"},"wp_review_small":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-65x65.jpg","width":65,"height":65,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-65x65.jpg"},"blog-large":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-642x300.jpg","width":642,"height":300,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-642x300.jpg"},"blog-medium":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-306x205.jpg","width":306,"height":205,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-306x205.jpg"},"recent-thumb":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-350x316.jpg","width":350,"height":316,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-350x316.jpg"},"service-featured":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-600x330.jpg","width":600,"height":330,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-600x330.jpg"},"wp_rp_thumbnail":{"file":"refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-150x150.jpg","width":150,"height":150,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update-150x150.jpg"}},"image_meta":{"aperture":"0","credit":"","camera":"","caption":"","created_timestamp":"0","copyright":"","focal_length":"0","iso":"0","shutter_speed":"0","title":"","orientation":"0","keywords":[]}},"post":89898,"source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/refs-windows-10-1709-fall-creators-update.jpg"},"commentcount":7,"wp_comments":[{"id":53655,"parent":0,"author":0,"author_name":"SirMarc","author_email":"marcsenn@web.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-21T12:12:55","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>Ist ein Filesystem f\u00fcr Server sonst nichts, enterprise ist Oki, weil zugriff auf Server. Aber sonst, grins<br \/>\nPS:Hab mal eine Partition mit ReFS Formatiert muss mal schauen ob das schneller ist?<br \/>\nOb es Bootabel ist kann man eigentlich gar nicht Pr\u00fcfen oder man installiert ein 2. Win 10 und tut mit einem das Refs formatieren und den Booten per stick und dort ohne Formatieren versuchen auf der refs partition windows zu installieren.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":53658,"parent":0,"author":0,"author_name":"Erazor84","author_email":"spam84@ymail.com","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/d16f80a69776be75a752dbfd4f08206e6f1cc91acf6ad0c940ccbf03336bc76a?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/d16f80a69776be75a752dbfd4f08206e6f1cc91acf6ad0c940ccbf03336bc76a?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/d16f80a69776be75a752dbfd4f08206e6f1cc91acf6ad0c940ccbf03336bc76a?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-21T13:22:34","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>Nachdem die zugriffszeiten deutlich langsamer sind, als mit NTFS, hab ich den REFS Test meinerseits schnell begraben. Ich bleibe beim guten alten und schnelles NTFS <img src=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/classic-smilies\/img\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" class=\"wp-smiley\" \/> Allerdings w\u00fcrde mich interessieren, was nach dem Fall CU Update dann bei Usern passiert, die ihre Festplatten mit ReFS formatiert haben.<\/p>\n<p>Hab schon in einiges Foren gelesen, dass User komplett auf REFS umgestiegen sind. Wenn das dann bei Home &amp; Pro wieder entfernt wird, was passiert dann? Oder sind die Platten weiterhin im Lese\/Schreibemodus zu betreiben, aber man kann lediglich keine neuen REFS Laufwerke erstellen?<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":53660,"parent":53658,"author":0,"author_name":"G\u00fcnter Born","author_email":"gborn@web.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5d9e6603bf23dc4916dd3188cfdd38f508d8fd5a1e97a76a5c28ea0a67c1b763?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5d9e6603bf23dc4916dd3188cfdd38f508d8fd5a1e97a76a5c28ea0a67c1b763?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5d9e6603bf23dc4916dd3188cfdd38f508d8fd5a1e97a76a5c28ea0a67c1b763?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-21T13:35:03","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>@Erazor84: Es passiert gar nichts, weil nur die Option zur Formatierung rausgenommen wird. Der Read\/Write-Provider bleibt in Windows 10 drin &#8211; Fluch der b\u00f6sen Tat, nachdem man dies generell in Windows 10 eingebaut hatte.<\/p>\n<p>Siehe: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.borncity.com\/blog\/2017\/08\/21\/windows-10-version-1709-auch-refs-fliegt-teilweise-raus\/\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">http:\/\/www.borncity.com\/blog\/2017\/08\/21\/windows-10-version-1709-auch-refs-fliegt-teilweise-raus\/<\/a><\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":53685,"parent":53658,"author":0,"author_name":"SirMarc","author_email":"marcsenn@web.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-21T18:10:41","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>Hab nur noch ssd im rechner also zugriff ist nicht so das Problem. Aber vileicht auch nur zum refs testen in der insider wenn millionen das testen ist das hald besser, und jetzt wider entvernt wegen fast rtm???<br \/>\nPS: ich teste mal ob man auf refs ein win installieren kann <img src=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/classic-smilies\/img\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";)\" class=\"wp-smiley\" \/><\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":53688,"parent":53685,"author":0,"author_name":"eynmarc","author_email":"marcsenn@web.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-21T19:57:56","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>Also geht nicht, hab eine Partition ReFS formatiert den mit stick neu gebootet  Win 10 Enterprise Insider r3 16257, Partition ausgew\u00e4hlt auf weiter, nach der Installation, war das C: des neuen Windows wider NTFS. <img src=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/classic-smilies\/img\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";-)\" class=\"wp-smiley\" \/> Tja also keine Windows  auf einer ReFS und kenne noch kein Partitions Manager der ReFS partitionen  Formatiert auch die Server Versionen nicht(wegen umwandeln von NTFS in eine ReFS. <img src=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/classic-smilies\/img\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";-)\" class=\"wp-smiley\" \/><\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":53695,"parent":53688,"author":134,"author_name":"moinmoin","author_email":"moin-moin@hab-verschlafen.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/fab96769102f8886245ab411df9a42a235be79261e4b44aa7ab2a555da8b86b4?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/fab96769102f8886245ab411df9a42a235be79261e4b44aa7ab2a555da8b86b4?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/fab96769102f8886245ab411df9a42a235be79261e4b44aa7ab2a555da8b86b4?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-22T08:09:36","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>Kann ja auch nicht gehen. Es ist nur f\u00fcr Datenpartitionen.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":53702,"parent":53688,"author":0,"author_name":"SirMarc","author_email":"marcsenn@web.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/9e62520146b31fd00d34e0e668aa8f0006e7445dcb1f8ee2166fee7fef2be7a3?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2017-08-22T10:40:43","cld_nonce":"f3262763c6","content":{"rendered":"<p>Ja Genau Gro\u00dfe Daten Partitionen auf Server wo man auf normal PCs nie hat, und die bauen das im Win 10 Home ein.<\/p>\n<p>Aber der versuch ist halt schon spannend, k\u00f6nnte ja gehen, versuche auch  wenn es ein Partition Programm gibt wo das ReFS anbietet, die teste Partition  nach Installation von ntfs nach ReFS zu konvertieren und wider booten. <img src=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/classic-smilies\/img\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\";-)\" class=\"wp-smiley\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Btrfs ist etwa das selbe wie ReFS,  Btrfs kann aber schon Booten damit<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"}],"wp_author":{"id":134,"name":"moinmoin","description":"Ich bin nicht allwissend, was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/wiki\/index.php?title=Kategorie:Windows_11\">Windows<\/a> angeht. 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