Vivaldi-Forum<\/a> stellen. Dort werdet ihr auch immer \u00fcber die aktuellen Versionen von unseren flei\u00dfigen Usern informiert. An der Stelle mal ein dickes Danke daf\u00fcr.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Lange hat es gedauert, aber nun hat Vivaldi damit angefangen Mail, Kalender und RSS in den Browser zu integrieren. Es war schon lange plant und wurde lange aufgeschoben, da es immer wieder nicht so wollte, wie man es sich gew\u00fcnscht… <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":121832,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[166],"tags":[9744,6172,7300,2418,7646],"class_list":["post-147093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-browser","tag-browser","tag-kalender","tag-mail","tag-rss","tag-vivaldi"],"wp_featured_image":{"id":121832,"alt_text":"","description":"","media_type":"image","media_details":{"width":886,"height":638,"file":"2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo.png","sizes":{"thumbnail":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-285x205.png","width":285,"height":205,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-285x205.png"},"medium":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-500x360.png","width":500,"height":360,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-500x360.png"},"large":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-810x583.png","width":810,"height":583,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-810x583.png"},"wp_review_large":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-320x200.png","width":320,"height":200,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-320x200.png"},"wp_review_small":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-65x65.png","width":65,"height":65,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-65x65.png"},"blog-large":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-642x300.png","width":642,"height":300,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-642x300.png"},"blog-medium":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-306x205.png","width":306,"height":205,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-306x205.png"},"recent-thumb":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-350x316.png","width":350,"height":316,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-350x316.png"},"service-featured":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-600x330.png","width":600,"height":330,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-600x330.png"},"wp_rp_thumbnail":{"file":"vivaldi-logo-150x150.png","width":150,"height":150,"mime-type":"image\/png","source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo-150x150.png"}},"image_meta":{"aperture":"0","credit":"","camera":"","caption":"","created_timestamp":"0","copyright":"","focal_length":"0","iso":"0","shutter_speed":"0","title":"","orientation":"0","keywords":[]}},"post":121831,"source_url":"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/vivaldi-logo.png"},"commentcount":8,"wp_comments":[{"id":154894,"parent":0,"author":0,"author_name":"7four7","author_email":"ghjsu@t-online.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/28b73154e494885721345f3a15951e96700653aa7f34b2009f65fa236f3df296?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/28b73154e494885721345f3a15951e96700653aa7f34b2009f65fa236f3df296?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/28b73154e494885721345f3a15951e96700653aa7f34b2009f65fa236f3df296?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T16:15:14","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
Als Anwender kenne ich seit 20 Jahren den Status brauchbar und unausgereift. Wenn man sich nur Thunderbird anschaut dann sieht man den steinigen Weg … Opera Mail z.B. hat \u00fcber Jahre den Anforderungen Stand gehalten. Nun, weil nicht mehr weiter entwickelt werden Mails aus Online Bestellungen nicht mehr korrekt angezeigt, man sieht nur Text und keine HTML Inhalte, sieht bl\u00f6d aus. Schau’n mer mal Vivaldi … jetzt bin ich erst mal auf Brave und TB umgestiegen.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154895,"parent":0,"author":0,"author_name":"Wolfgang D.","author_email":"wolfgang362@habmalnefrage.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8c2cdcb93bad312838c0c22ec8fe38476c9f1fe8d48edc19d15fa8adfbe95f3f?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8c2cdcb93bad312838c0c22ec8fe38476c9f1fe8d48edc19d15fa8adfbe95f3f?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8c2cdcb93bad312838c0c22ec8fe38476c9f1fe8d48edc19d15fa8adfbe95f3f?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T16:57:42","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
Die Leutz bei Vivaldi sollten mal eher auf mehr Bugarmut achten. <\/p>\n
So sehr ich die Featuritis des Browsers sch\u00e4tze, aber ich bin immer noch auf der letzten 2.9. Downgrades aufgrund von nervigen Fehlern von der 3.0, 3.1, und 3.3 habe ich bereits hinter mir. <\/p>\n
Mails im Browser zu lesen ist allerdings eher eine Strafe, wie ich bei etlichen Kunden immer wieder merke. F\u00fcr einen extra Client muss Vivaldi die neuen Auth. Methoden von Google und Microsoft nachr\u00fcsten. Mal ganz abgesehen vom Exchange oder Card\/CalDAV Protokoll, f\u00fcr einen echten PIM. Ich sehe da keine Gefahr f\u00fcr meine Thunderbird, Evolution, oder Outlook Installationen, und erst recht ist es kein Grund f\u00fcr erneute Tests.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154896,"parent":0,"author":0,"author_name":"GwenDragon-Linux","author_email":"dev@gwendragon.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08083af2dfdcdb01f23c4d06c455f2654f08b60739daa7883b9ea5e5d6dff565?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08083af2dfdcdb01f23c4d06c455f2654f08b60739daa7883b9ea5e5d6dff565?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08083af2dfdcdb01f23c4d06c455f2654f08b60739daa7883b9ea5e5d6dff565?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T16:58:08","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
@7four7<\/p>\n
Opera Mail z.B. hat \u00fcber Jahre den Anforderungen Stand gehalten. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Deinen Anforderungen, meinst du. Ist ja ok.<\/p>\n
Mir fehlte die notwendige Implementation von PGP und S\/MIME (wurde seit 2006 seitens diverser Opera-Entwickler versprochen und nie gehalten). hat mich dann auf einen anderen Client gezwungen.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154897,"parent":154895,"author":0,"author_name":"GwenDragon-Linux","author_email":"dev@gwendragon.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08083af2dfdcdb01f23c4d06c455f2654f08b60739daa7883b9ea5e5d6dff565?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08083af2dfdcdb01f23c4d06c455f2654f08b60739daa7883b9ea5e5d6dff565?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08083af2dfdcdb01f23c4d06c455f2654f08b60739daa7883b9ea5e5d6dff565?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T17:01:03","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
Du wirst Spa\u00df haben an Sicherheitsl\u00fccken der Vivaldi 2.9. Oder betreibst du dein OS in einer VM?
\nMuss jeder selbst wissen wie er experimentell surft.<\/p>\n
Was den Mail Client anbelangt, fehlt dem ja noch einiges, davon mal abgesehen dass gro\u00dfe Anbieter wie GMail und MS auch gern Mailclients blockieren, wenn diese nicht kostenbelastet zertifiziert sind.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154905,"parent":154896,"author":0,"author_name":"frutz","author_email":"keine@email.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/95bd672ec67380cf6e15433440f9825ffd29b1c1084091b37b5019edeef3bf65?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/95bd672ec67380cf6e15433440f9825ffd29b1c1084091b37b5019edeef3bf65?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/95bd672ec67380cf6e15433440f9825ffd29b1c1084091b37b5019edeef3bf65?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T17:58:47","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
Ja, der Feature Request ist von 2004.
\nAber PGP wird explizit erw\u00e4hnt im Blogpost von Vivaldi zu M3, ich erwarte also tats\u00e4chlich, dass der Support diesmal kommt.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154906,"parent":154897,"author":0,"author_name":"Wolfgang D.","author_email":"wolfgang362@habmalnefrage.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8c2cdcb93bad312838c0c22ec8fe38476c9f1fe8d48edc19d15fa8adfbe95f3f?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8c2cdcb93bad312838c0c22ec8fe38476c9f1fe8d48edc19d15fa8adfbe95f3f?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8c2cdcb93bad312838c0c22ec8fe38476c9f1fe8d48edc19d15fa8adfbe95f3f?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T17:59:35","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
@GwenDragon-Linux „Sicherheitsl\u00fccken“<\/p>\n
FUD, in bester Microsoftmanier. Wie sieht denn eine reelle Risikobewertung dieser L\u00fccken aus? Mal ab davon, wie bei jeder Aktualisierung mit den Featureupdates neue Sicherheitsl\u00fccken aufgerissen werden – die euch Programmierer offenbar nicht weiter st\u00f6ren.<\/p>\n
Vermutlich baut ihr demn\u00e4chst Zeitbomben in den Code, damit blo\u00df keiner ne ausgereifte Version nutzt.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154916,"parent":154906,"author":2038,"author_name":"GwenDragon","author_email":"info@gwendragon.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ab9cf037d6cbcba5c651656468693c8727c7122d9141dfa149b5ce8cc5923c48?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ab9cf037d6cbcba5c651656468693c8727c7122d9141dfa149b5ce8cc5923c48?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ab9cf037d6cbcba5c651656468693c8727c7122d9141dfa149b5ce8cc5923c48?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T19:58:21","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
Dass du \u00fcberhaupt Vivaldi f\u00fcr irgendwas nimmst, selbst wenns 2.9 ist, das ist mir ein R\u00e4tsel. Aber vielleicht ist das auch neu eine Spielweise f\u00fcr dich.<\/p>\n
Mich nerven Macken der 3.5 mit kaputten Codecs, abst\u00fcrzenden Devtools, einfrierende Websites, Coredumps auf diversen Distributionen. Empfehlen kann ich deswegen Vivaldi niemand.<\/p>\n
Vermutlich baut ihr demn\u00e4chst Zeitbomben in den Code, damit blo\u00df keiner ne ausgereifte Version nutzt.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Ja, mit Selbstzerst\u00f6rung, wenn schon. Damit es sich lohnt.<\/p>\n
Aber seit wann gibt es noch ausgereifte Software? Die reift beim Kunden und Betatster. ![\":P\"](\"https:\/\/www.deskmodder.de\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/classic-smilies\/img\/icon_razz.gif\")
<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"},{"id":154917,"parent":154905,"author":2038,"author_name":"GwenDragon","author_email":"info@gwendragon.de","author_url":"","author_avatar_urls":{"24":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ab9cf037d6cbcba5c651656468693c8727c7122d9141dfa149b5ce8cc5923c48?s=24&d=mm&r=g","48":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ab9cf037d6cbcba5c651656468693c8727c7122d9141dfa149b5ce8cc5923c48?s=48&d=mm&r=g","96":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/ab9cf037d6cbcba5c651656468693c8727c7122d9141dfa149b5ce8cc5923c48?s=96&d=mm&r=g"},"date":"2020-11-24T20:01:27","cld_nonce":"015d9540d6","content":{"rendered":"
Ich werde manchen intern ab und an mal anschieben, dass es nicht Jahre dauert.<\/p>\n"},"status":"1"}],"wp_author":{"id":134,"name":"moinmoin","description":"Ich bin nicht allwissend, was Windows<\/a> angeht. Aber genau deshalb nehme ich Windows gerne auseinander und unter die Lupe, um all mein Wissen zu erweitern. 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